I imagine it's pretty much the same across the board - what fits in the waist, doesn't fit the hips/thighs. If they fit, then they're too short (or long). And the sizes aren't the same in every store. So you can be one size a Store A and a size smaller or bigger at Store B. Can we please start labeling women's pants like men;'s by waits and inseam? Please? :P