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switch842 ([personal profile] switch842) wrote2008-06-05 09:09 am
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Buffy Season 2

I finished Buffy season two the other day. I’ve been holding off on writing anything though because I was trying to figure out what it is that’s sort of bugging me about the show. And not in a bad way. More just because I totally expected by this point to be totally sucked in to the show and OMG-obesessed with everything. And I’m not. I’m still kind of meh about everything. I have come to two possible conclusions – 1) Since I know most general things that have happened in the show, I’m not worried about anything. Like, Angel just got sucked into a vortex to hell. But I don’t really care cos I know he’ll be back. Hell, he gets his own show in a couple seasons. And 2) I don’t care about Buffy. I’m not 100% sure why yet, but I don’t care about her. I’m more interested in everyone else on the show. Giles and Jenny. Xander and Cordelia. Willow and Oz. Spike and Drusilla. Even just Angel by himself. Buffy just doesn’t interest me. Maybe it’s because I’m so far removed from high school and she still seems very immature in some ways. Which, she’s 17 you can’t expect her to act like she’s 30. But there’s still something there that bugs me. Maybe it’s because I’ve never been a big fan of Sarah’s. She’s just never grabbed my attention as an actress. I don’t know. But it’s weird. I think that if I were watching as/when the show was originally airing, I probably would have stopped by now. But y’all say season 3 is awesome, so I’m still holding out hope.

Ok, so, now specifically Becoming. It was interesting enough. I was slightly disappointed that we didn’t get to see Spike’s origin story. Though, I suppose that’s because Angel wasn’t directly involved. Do we ever learn more about that? Since we know how Angel and Dru got to be vamps. Seems only fair we learn more about Spike. When that demon guy introduced himself as Whistler, I immediately thought of Blade. Any correlation? Or just coincidence? And, like I alluded to above, I was more worried about Willow in this episode than Buffy. Though, I am slightly ticked off at her mom. I mean, hello. You saw a vampire get disintegrated right in front of you, you have another one sitting in your living room (and that scene with Spike and Joyce was completely made of win) and you still don’t believe your daughter. Instead, you kick her out of the house. Good job, mom.

So, season 3 should be coming tomorrow. We’ll see what happens with that…

[identity profile] gategrrl.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, Buffy.

I remember when it first came out, about ten years ago, I think? My husband I would be glued to the television. It was tightly written, the plot screws tightened with every scene (mostly) and we were still young enough to remember what High School was like: I was 31 or 32, so was my husband.

Now, however, much as I loved it then, I don't go back and rewatch it, even for free on cable when it shows. By the sixth or seventh season, my husband had stopped watching it in disgust. I hung on just because I wanted to see what *happened* at the end. There are a few excellent episodes after the fifth season, but the character of Buffy herself spiraled down into this college-aged angst and sex addiction that was just...okay, I'll say it: it was repellent.

And Willow's mother? Yeah, neglectful and an irritant.

[identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's another thing that bugs me - Where are the parents? We only see Joyce and she's really only there when the plot needs her. My parents never went on vacation by themselves when I was living at home. They were, ya know, home. With me.

[identity profile] gategrrl.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, such is the convention in teen-urban fantasy (and in general). The teens in real life wouldn't be able to do half what they do in their adventures if their parents were *really* around! Unfortunately, what goes for you and me in our upbringing isn't necessarily true for all teens.

Xander's parents and Willow's parents were both neglectful in different ways, but the end result was the same. Buffy's father was quickly explained as absent, while her mother had to make a living: and she was old enough that most parents would be relatively okay leaving them on their own while they worked. My mother did that, after school (she was single mom for a good part of my childhood). I was on my own.

I think leaving older teens at home alone is not as rare you might think.

Joyce's role does get larger as the series progresses, however. She becomes the touchstone for ALL the kids, ALL of whom need a Mom.

[identity profile] hatusu.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You will get Spike's story. I remember it well.

When Josh Weydon stopped writing, the show got very spotty and went off in some weird directions and yes, there seemed to be a lot of early sex and drinking.

Luckily, Josh Weydon came back in the final season for a good send-off.

There is a very funny beer drinking episode. :-)

[identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Joss is awesome, really.

And beer drinking? Hmmm, I shall have to keep an eye out...

[identity profile] almostfamous90.livejournal.com 2008-06-07 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
hatusu may be referring to "beer bad," season four i think.

[identity profile] littleheaven70.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, I'm sorry it hasn't sucked you right in yet. I also knew what was coming, because I'd seen some of S3 and all of S1 of Angel before I started from the beginning. But I still got absolutely hammered by the end of Season 2. However, the general consensus is correct, IMO - Season 3 really is where the show found its groove. The Prom is one of the few eps of any show where I've openly sobbed in front of the TV!

Yes, you will see Spike's full story, and if I remember rightly, little bits of it are revealed over several seasons. It's both hilarious and heartbreaking. If you're a big Spike fan, his story gets more and more interesting from S4 onwards. He and Cordelia are the two characters in the Buffyverse who, IMHO, had the most interesting character development, with Wesley a close second.

Don't worry though, you don't need to like Buffy to be a Buffy fan. My favourite character was Cordelia. And when she moved shows, I watched for the Spike/Xander funny. Hang in there, you still might get sucked in. It took me until S4 of Star Trek Voyager to become obsessed with it!

[identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com 2008-06-05 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Very happy to hear we get Spike's story. So far those two do really seem to have the most interesting stuff going on. I mean, with Spike joining forces with Buffy, Angel coming and trying to steal Drusilla. It's all quite intriguing....

[identity profile] almostfamous90.livejournal.com 2008-06-07 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
cordelia was my fav on "angel."
on "btvs," i kind of liked faith and spike.
angelus was pretty amazing too. lol
something about dark characters, i suppose.
:]

wesley was a well done character as well.
i loved how he blossomed on "angel."


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