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So, um, I'm not gonna finish Buffy/Angel. I have two more discs left in the current seasons I'm on. I'll watch those and then, that's it. It's just not interesting to me. Hot and lovely as James is, I can't sit through all the crap and wait for him to show up any more. :-( So, oh well. I gave it a shot. Did the best I could. But it's just not working for me.

On the plus side, this will then free up my time for Supernatural once all the torrents finish. :-)

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Date: 2008-09-22 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraith816.livejournal.com
Where in the series did you get up to?


this will then free up my time for Supernatural once all the torrents finish.

\o/ \o/ \o/

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Date: 2008-09-22 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com
LOL. I'll be ending with Season 5 of Buffy and Season 2 of Angel.

I hope Supernatural grabs my attention better... :-D

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Date: 2008-09-22 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erin-anderson.livejournal.com
And leave room for your second attempt at Babylon 5. I swear it's just like a book, the beginning is a bit slow but necessary and then it gets really good, I promise!!!

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Date: 2008-09-22 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com
Yes yes yes. :-P

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Date: 2008-09-22 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littleheaven70.livejournal.com
Aw, that's a shame. It is and always will be my one true fandom. Though I have to admit I've not finished Angel S5. The pain of watching after what they did to Cordy was just too much. IMO you've probably seen the best of both, though the first two discs of Angel S3 are worth a watch if you're an Angel/Cordy shipper like myself. *ducks flying tomatoes*

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Date: 2008-09-22 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com
LOL

I'm not really a shipper of anyone on Angel. What did they do with Cordy?

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Date: 2008-09-22 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littleheaven70.livejournal.com
Um, this is a bit of a sore point for me - I think "character assasination" best describes it, though it's a source of hot debate in the fandom. They had her become part-demon so that the visions wouldn't kill her, but never really fully explored the repercussions of that. But it turned out that afterwards she had the power to go all glowy, though she couldn't control it.

Then they did this lame thing where Angel and Cordy realised they were in love, and they were going to meet up at Point Dume to hook up, but on the way her demon guide, Skip (the one who made her half demon) turned up and said the PTB wanted to make her a higher being. So she went up into the sky. When she came back, early in S4, she had amnesia and didn't know who she or anyone else was. When she did get her memory back, she ran away. Then there was the "Con-Cord" icky debacle, where she slept with Angel & Darla's son Connor (who aged to about 18 in a hell dimension over the course of a few weeks) and became pregnant with a demon god who wanted to take over the world (natch).

What galled was they made her evil, and not one of her friends ever blinked an eyelid that she was so out of character. And then the writers retro-fitted the entirety of the show's history in an expositiony-flashback scene, going right back when Doyle gave her the visions, to service this god-awful storyline, which was by their own admission cobbled together when Charisma Carpenter fell pregnant in the hiatus after Season 3. It made a mockery of everything her character had been through.

When she gave birth to the demon (a fully grown woman named Jasmine, played by Gina Torres) she fell into a coma, and was barely mentioned again. An integral part of the gang suddenly keels over, and everyone just carried on like she'd never existed, until the 100th ep, halfway through Season 5, where they brought her back only to kill her off. /end rant.

Told you it was a sore point ;o)

You can read a much more eloquent rendition here: http://www.jennycrusie.com/essays/cordeliachase.php

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Date: 2008-09-22 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com
Wow. That's, um...wow. Way worse than anything Mallozzi and company ever put us through. I think I'd be pretty pissed if I had gone though that, as well. I love Cordelia.

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Date: 2008-09-22 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littleheaven70.livejournal.com
Yeah, it was awful. We kept watching hoping that it would be revealed as some sort of alterna-universe or bad dream, but it just got worse. What really annoyed me was the retro-fit of the storyline. They basically said that Jasmine, the demon god, had engineered everything that happened from Cordy getting the visions onwards to facilitate her birth, which negated all of the free will and personal growth in the storyline. It could have gone so many fantastic ways. But Greenwalt was the guy who loved Cordy and wrote her best, so with him went her character, and then when Joss got distracted with Firefly, the other writers took over and it was just never the same. Cordy did get a fitting farewell. She went out a well-dressed, quipping hero. *points to icon*

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com
Wow. That's some major ret-con right there. Oy.

Glad to hear she got a proper send off, at least. :-)

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Date: 2008-09-22 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daniel-shadow.livejournal.com
I remember all the hype about Buffy and Angel when they first came out but I never really got into it. Don't know why but that's the way it is.

It was completely different with Supernatural. First episode ... bam... the boyz got me interested. At the time all I know about the show was Jensen and I like him before his appearances on Dark Angel, Smallville and I was willing to give it a chance. Don't even know a thing about this guy called Jared Padalecki at the time. ;)

However, the witty and intelligent script and the relationship be the two leads drew me in big time. To me that is fantastic as the chemistry of the leads are vital as if it does not work then the show will fall apart.

I can't wait to read what you are going to say about SPN. :D

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Date: 2008-09-22 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com
LOL. I guess if everyone liked all the same shows, TV would be pretty boring. :-D

I should know within the first episode if I'll get hooked or not. That's how it was for me with Torchwood. First ep aired on BBC America and I spent the rest of the weekend downloading and watching the entire first season. I kinda hope Supernatural does that for me. I kinda need a new fandom. :-D

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Date: 2008-09-23 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwigater.livejournal.com
Yeah, see I just didn't "get" Supernatural *ducks* :p
But then I didn't really get Buffy or Angel either.

I'm a baaaaad sci fi fan :o Still, I adore Dr Who, Life on Mars, SG (obviously :p ), Quantum Leap and ST (especially TNG), so does that make me MOSTLY geek!?!

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Date: 2008-09-23 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com
LOL I won't throw anything. Until I start watching and I find out if I love it or not. :-D

As long as you love the Who, I'd say you're fine. Any opinions on Torchwood?

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Date: 2008-09-23 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maureen.livejournal.com
In MY opinion, you won't be missing much of Angel by stopping where you are. The last two seasons of Buffy, though are the best. I'd be a pity to stop now (Spike is in both seasons).

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Date: 2008-09-23 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] switch842.livejournal.com
I keep hearing that about Buffy, but I just can't bring myself to care that much. James is no longer worth the other crap I have to sit through just to see him. Much as I love him... Oh, well.

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